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the death of Israel say it as it is
THE DEATH OF ISRAEL
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I refer to the article by Alex Fishman in ’Yediot Achronot’ on Friday, July 24, 2009.
The evil of some politicians is so beyond understanding that one must stop and shake his head in disbelief!
I do not understand who made President Obama G-D. He wants a Palestinian state! On what basis?? Never in history has there been an Arab Palestinian state, an Arab Palestinian, or an Arab Palestinian nation.
President Obama wants to take a motley assortment of Arabs, whose only goal is to kill Jews – as their leaders have been declaiming for years, and make them into a nation, giving them a state in proximity to the Jews they so much hate, in order to make it easy to kill them. So as not to ‘inconvenience’ them in this goal, the world gives them weapons, money in the billions, and the presence of a multinational force to protect them in case the Israelis have the chutzpah to try to defend themselves. We have recently seen the efficacy of such a force in Lebanon, and earlier in Egypt with Nasser, and in the Golan in1973. Totally useless!
The so-called leaders of Israel, who are supposed to strive for the welfare of the people who elected them, are actually only interested in three things: their own ego, their personal gain and being awarded the worthless, over-rated, corrupt Nobel peace prize.
Obama think he is G-D. The ‘Palestinian State’ he wants will be accomplished at the expense of the hated Jews. Remember he is a Muslim. He thinks like one and acts like one, but he needed the Jews to win the presidential race, his first, and last, four years in the White House, so he made all the right noises about being Israel’s friends and allies.
The so-called Arab/Palestinian leaders loudly declare that the goal of the Arabs is to kill the Jews! They incite their fellow Arabs to it in public but Western world, unable to understand Arabic, does not take it seriously! But the Arabs are very serious about it - just look at their kindergarten and school curricula. They do not want a state; they want a limbo situation where the world is giving them billions so they can siphon some off it into their own pockets (remember Arafat’s billions?). Not for them the bother of providing services for their fellow citizens, such annoyances as electricity, gas, water, trash collection, roads, hospitals and the other myriad boring tasks of running a state. There is more glory in killing Jews.
The Arabs follow a religion which, 1,200 years after the death of its founder, has them still killing each other over who should have been given the right to be the leader all those years ago!
The Europeans have no guts to solve the Arab problem in their own countries and many of them, like Austria, England, France, Greece, Denmark, are demanding that Israel will commit suicide so that the Europeans will look good in the eyes of the Islamists who are taking over their countries at a faster pace than was expected. In a very short time, white Europeans will be a minority and subjugated to Islam.
The root cause of all this unrest, the United Nations, sees this conflict as a ‘job for life’ in dealing with the supposed ‘Arab refugees’. The latter have long since lost their status as refugees (can you be a refugee after 60 years?) but the U.N. has added some legalese to their charter to maintain the refugee status of these ‘clients’ so they will continue to need help.
Unfortunately, the confused Israeli public is behaving like sheep and the individuals who think differently and want to stand up for their legitimate rights are treated as traitors,
The left wing, the ‘bleeding hearts’, claim that Israel is a state for all, and not just a Jewish state. They say anyone is welcome to come and settle here! If so, why not make arrangements with every unemployment office in the Far East and Africa to move all their poor and unemployed to Israel? According to the left wing, Israel (unlike all other countries in the world who are closing their borders to refugees) has an obligation towards the poor of the world. Perhaps a better idea would be to move the leftists to a vacant area in Greenland or Africa where they can personally fulfill their desire to support these needy people! Why should a country that cannot take care of its own poor have to go global and support Africans, Chinese, Romanians, Indians, Poles, Philippinos, and please do not forget the Arabs who, as we all know, have no oil revenue left over for their poor as the leaders have to expend millions a day on their own agendas.
Is there something we could be doing to change this situation? Yes, there is. To offset the damage being done to our country by members of the old school, the time has come to recruit some of the highly educated, intelligent, not yet corrupted newcomers to Israel. These newcomers understand that this is the land of the Jews. They should create a new kind of political party, a party that does not owe anybody anything in return for a political favors, a party that will not be cowed by the five families that own the country and who force politicians to do what they want. This party will immediately replace the corrupt, heartless occupants in the treasury department who are strangling the state by refusing to release the money which has been allocated by the government for projects such as child support or water desalination .resettling the Gaza evacuees. This party will be strong enough to tell people that if they do not agree with this new outlook and refuse to obey the law, they are welcome to get a one way ticket out. This party should appoint judges who administer the law and not ones who make decisions based on their political convictions, forcing the government to change the law to suit these decisions.
Perhaps I will be charged with incitement as I have the guts to call a spade a spade, a no-no in this country. I was born in this country and I fought for it. I cannot lamely watch it being destroyed by the dictates of the leftist press, the small group that is making our lives a misery, and of the army officers who will trample on the people they are paid to protect in order to ensure their election into politics at the end of their army service From the creation of the State of Israel, the army was designated a non-political entity. Now, it is overrun with officers who want to become self-aggrandizing politicians, and the government is peopled by ex-army officers. Who is guarding the State of Israel?
Michael grant
slrneg@yahoo.com
START THE PARTY
I refer to the article by Alex Fishman in ’Yediot Achronot’ on Friday, July 24, 2009.
The evil of some politicians is so beyond understanding that one must stop and shake his head in disbelief!
I do not understand who made President Obama G-D. He wants a Palestinian state! On what basis?? Never in history has there been an Arab Palestinian state, an Arab Palestinian, or an Arab Palestinian nation.
President Obama wants to take a motley assortment of Arabs, whose only goal is to kill Jews – as their leaders have been declaiming for years, and make them into a nation, giving them a state in proximity to the Jews they so much hate, in order to make it easy to kill them. So as not to ‘inconvenience’ them in this goal, the world gives them weapons, money in the billions, and the presence of a multinational force to protect them in case the Israelis have the chutzpah to try to defend themselves. We have recently seen the efficacy of such a force in Lebanon, and earlier in Egypt with Nasser, and in the Golan in1973. Totally useless!
The so-called leaders of Israel, who are supposed to strive for the welfare of the people who elected them, are actually only interested in three things: their own ego, their personal gain and being awarded the worthless, over-rated, corrupt Nobel peace prize.
Obama think he is G-D. The ‘Palestinian State’ he wants will be accomplished at the expense of the hated Jews. Remember he is a Muslim. He thinks like one and acts like one, but he needed the Jews to win the presidential race, his first, and last, four years in the White House, so he made all the right noises about being Israel’s friends and allies.
The so-called Arab/Palestinian leaders loudly declare that the goal of the Arabs is to kill the Jews! They incite their fellow Arabs to it in public but Western world, unable to understand Arabic, does not take it seriously! But the Arabs are very serious about it - just look at their kindergarten and school curricula. They do not want a state; they want a limbo situation where the world is giving them billions so they can siphon some off it into their own pockets (remember Arafat’s billions?). Not for them the bother of providing services for their fellow citizens, such annoyances as electricity, gas, water, trash collection, roads, hospitals and the other myriad boring tasks of running a state. There is more glory in killing Jews.
The Arabs follow a religion which, 1,200 years after the death of its founder, has them still killing each other over who should have been given the right to be the leader all those years ago!
The Europeans have no guts to solve the Arab problem in their own countries and many of them, like Austria, England, France, Greece, Denmark, are demanding that Israel will commit suicide so that the Europeans will look good in the eyes of the Islamists who are taking over their countries at a faster pace than was expected. In a very short time, white Europeans will be a minority and subjugated to Islam.
The root cause of all this unrest, the United Nations, sees this conflict as a ‘job for life’ in dealing with the supposed ‘Arab refugees’. The latter have long since lost their status as refugees (can you be a refugee after 60 years?) but the U.N. has added some legalese to their charter to maintain the refugee status of these ‘clients’ so they will continue to need help.
Unfortunately, the confused Israeli public is behaving like sheep and the individuals who think differently and want to stand up for their legitimate rights are treated as traitors,
The left wing, the ‘bleeding hearts’, claim that Israel is a state for all, and not just a Jewish state. They say anyone is welcome to come and settle here! If so, why not make arrangements with every unemployment office in the Far East and Africa to move all their poor and unemployed to Israel? According to the left wing, Israel (unlike all other countries in the world who are closing their borders to refugees) has an obligation towards the poor of the world. Perhaps a better idea would be to move the leftists to a vacant area in Greenland or Africa where they can personally fulfill their desire to support these needy people! Why should a country that cannot take care of its own poor have to go global and support Africans, Chinese, Romanians, Indians, Poles, Philippinos, and please do not forget the Arabs who, as we all know, have no oil revenue left over for their poor as the leaders have to expend millions a day on their own agendas.
Is there something we could be doing to change this situation? Yes, there is. To offset the damage being done to our country by members of the old school, the time has come to recruit some of the highly educated, intelligent, not yet corrupted newcomers to Israel. These newcomers understand that this is the land of the Jews. They should create a new kind of political party, a party that does not owe anybody anything in return for a political favors, a party that will not be cowed by the five families that own the country and who force politicians to do what they want. This party will immediately replace the corrupt, heartless occupants in the treasury department who are strangling the state by refusing to release the money which has been allocated by the government for projects such as child support or water desalination .resettling the Gaza evacuees. This party will be strong enough to tell people that if they do not agree with this new outlook and refuse to obey the law, they are welcome to get a one way ticket out. This party should appoint judges who administer the law and not ones who make decisions based on their political convictions, forcing the government to change the law to suit these decisions.
Perhaps I will be charged with incitement as I have the guts to call a spade a spade, a no-no in this country. I was born in this country and I fought for it. I cannot lamely watch it being destroyed by the dictates of the leftist press, the small group that is making our lives a misery, and of the army officers who will trample on the people they are paid to protect in order to ensure their election into politics at the end of their army service From the creation of the State of Israel, the army was designated a non-political entity. Now, it is overrun with officers who want to become self-aggrandizing politicians, and the government is peopled by ex-army officers. Who is guarding the State of Israel?
Michael grant
slrneg@yahoo.com
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Permalink Reply by michael grant on -
well it looks as nobody care about the state of Israel
maybe you do not deserve to have a state and keep treading in your muddy puddle
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Permalink Reply by Aryeh Shore on
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I am not sure what your rant has to do with globalyeshiva, but since you brought it up.
To call the Israeli electorate a herd of sheep is ridiculous. It is the most vocal electorate I have ever seen anywhere in the world. They know exactly what they are doing and have often changed their minds. They certainly have changed their minds about Obama and do not like or trust him.
As for our politicians, one certainly can not claim that they are not corrupt. Although the level of corruption may not be above average for the west, what is different is that the whole idea of honest government is foreign to them. (Probably due to our Socialist origins.)
Mr. Netanyahu is a good politician and does what a good politican does. He reaches a consensus on the distribution of goods and services. There is no magic formula or computer program that can disperse good and services evenly as it is impossible to give everyone everything they deserve. This can only be done by politics.
In any event, Israel is a incredible success and has gone from a third world country to a first class country in an incredibly short time. There is no reason to think that it will not get even better over the next fifty years. And by some miracle, our banks were not involved in derivatives and our status as an economic power will probably increase after this present recession is over.
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Permalink Reply by michael grant on
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Hi
well I was in Israel from before 48 and have seen how the political system works (also from the inside) well we have an official government and we have the treasury office that make its own rules, and we have the 5 families that work behind the scenes and drive the financial life to its own profit and the hell with the country not forgetting the left press that declared war on the Torah Jews many years ago look at the Jews coming to Israel in the 50TH cut your peot or get no work, seen how the Torah Jews were the kick bag for years and how the courts were consistently anti religious all along the line how the police is conducting periodic attacks on Jews in Meah Shearim (3 years ago)
as a religious Jew I see now how we are being discriminated against, look at the checks of Beitar buses lately not much different then the Arabs, searches in buses that go from Beitar to Jerusalem directly only with Beitar passengers it is new
I wish you a shabat shalom
michael Grant Beitar Illit
Aryeh Shore said:I am not sure what your rant has to do with globalyeshiva, but since you brought it up.
To call the Israeli electorate a herd of sheep is ridiculous. It is the most vocal electorate I have ever seen anywhere in the world. They know exactly what they are doing and have often changed their minds. They certainly have changed their minds about Obama and do not like or trust him.
As for our politicians, one certainly can not claim that they are not corrupt. Although the level of corruption may not be above average for the west, what is different is that the whole idea of honest government is foreign to them. (Probably due to our Socialist origins.)
Mr. Netanyahu is a good politician and does what a good politican does. He reaches a consensus on the distribution of goods and services. There is no magic formula or computer program that can disperse good and services evenly as it is impossible to give everyone everything they deserve. This can only be done by politics.
In any event, Israel is a incredible success and has gone from a third world country to a first class country in an incredibly short time. There is no reason to think that it will not get even better over the next fifty years. And by some miracle, our banks were not involved in derivatives and our status as an economic power will probably increase after this present recession is over.
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Well if you can't tell the difference between Israel in the early years of the State when it was run by anti-religious communists who excluded religious jews from any postition of authority and Israel today where half the army officers are religious jews, there isn't much I can say. One can not tell someone is seeing something that he feels he is seeing. However, I can tell the difference in the tremendous increase in standard of living and the widespread establishment of yeshivot and increase in torah learning. It would be hard to imagine a Betar Illit fourty years ago.
Incidently, it is no longer true that all of the money and power in Israel is the hands of five families. It is in the hands of eighteen families.
The situation in Jerusalem appears to be an intra-Cheredi struggle. It was Cheredi councilmen who approved the parking lot and the ministry of health is run by a Cheredi politician who is backing Hadassah. The question is when the Cheredim who work for a living in Betar Illit are going to demand the political power they deserve.
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Permalink Reply by michael grant on
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yes I do see the change in standard of living and the murder rate violence in schools and on the road also in the charedi community
I am for a balanced government a representation to all Jews as Jews without the labeling of Right Wing the army today is largely of more or less religious soldiers and the government is afraid of them that when the time will come will listen to the Rabbi's
look at the last week we had so far 3 murders and 4-5 killings is this a sign of a healthy country??
once we were much more open to each other no longer, I see many Israeli's who want to learn Torah but NOT from the Blacks as they call them
we have to publish statistic of how many of us who work and pay taxes to change the idea that we do not work at all and all are on the take from the government
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Well my friend Eli Berman published statistics a number of years ago showing that what we were doing was not sustainable (every shekel spent for Cheredi education, cost the economy five shekels) and that is why Bibi change it so that a substantial number of Cheredim are now in the workforce. However, I was referring specifically to Betar Illit which according to my irrefutable sources, the Jerusalem Post and Yediot, is a particular example where 15% of the population is paying for the rest and they are rallying behind Rav Porush to express their feeling that they are getting the political power associated with their contribution, something you would know more about than I would.
As for statistics, the number of traffic fatalities in Israel has dropped every year since 1973. The drop in crime rate is similar, especially since we built that fence. Stop reading newspapers. Our health statistics are way better than the European average (with the exception of Diabetes). If there is an actual increase in violence, we will have to see the five year averages.
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Permalink Reply by michael grant on
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you are right that things get better but at what cost?
I have seen violence in Beitar just last week on shabbat a man going with his 2 sons to synagogue was stoned by hasidim (the man is the gabbai of the synagogue not a hasidic one) the violence of teenagers is in some areas are well known and not very much is being done about it now the city is experimenting with a club at the small hours of the night but many times my grandchildren are beaten or afraid to go to school by certain areas or come to my house as the other children have territories that they may not pass
this is how it starts
do you remember that the tyres of the Rabbi's car were slashed? the reaction was they are kids let it go then they burned the rabbi's car
not all is well there is a lot of work to be done and we must replace the ones at the top as there is a limit how many times they can be recycled under new parties
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