yeshivos of Shem and Eiver

[Chaim]

Do we understand anything more about these yeshivos at which Yaakov learned for 14 years?

Who were the students of these yeshivos other than Yaakov?

If Avraham Avinu is described (my source is an Aish audio lecture) as having intellectually discovering the necessity of Hashem's existence as Creator thus fulfilling mankind's potential in that regard, since Shem and Eiver and their yeshivos predate Avraham, what did they teach, and why weren't they, or their other students, credited with being the earliest ones to have fulfilled this knowledge of Hashem?

[Rephoel]

Shem and Ever probably taught the 7 Mitzvohs of B'nei Noach. Avrohom Oveenu added the knowledge of the mitzvohs of the Torah and publicly spoke to everyone who would listen (and to those who didn't care) all about Hashem and his Oneness. Noachide law does not require Oneness of Hashem.

[aribentzion benveniste]

Shalom Sir:
I do believe Nohide Laws require and it is one mandate to believe in one G-d "Oneness of Has-m".

Be happy

[Rephoel]

7 mitzvohs for b'nei Noach does NOT include oneness of Hashem. It requires belief in Hashem but not with the mitzvohs we are taught. They may not do avodah zoroh.H' echod is only a b'nei Torah mitzvoh. Shema Yisroel,not bnei Noach.

[aribentzion benveniste]

Shalom Rephoel:

well if we view this matter in a more profound perspective we might find a few interesting facts.
Talmud Sanhedrin 105a " Righteous people of all nations have a share in the world to come" when a bnei Noach lives according to the Noah Law a person is called a righteous among the gentiles. Maimonides(of blessed memory) defines a righteous as one who has acquired knowledge about H-sm and lives in accordance with the Bnei Noach Commandment. Now, RavR. Samuel ben Hophni Gaon develops a more compelling lists of the Bnei Noach comandment based on Ulla's Talmudic statement covering as follows:
1.Idolatry
No idolatry
To pray
To offer ritual sacrifices
2.Blasphemy
To believe in the singularity of God
No blasphemy
No witchcraft
No soothsayers
No conjurers
No sorcerers
No mediums
No demonology
No wizardry
No necromancy
To respect father & mother
3.Murder
No murder
No suicide
No Molech worship (infant sacrifice)
4.Property
No stealing
5.Sexual Immorality
No adultery
Formal marriages via bride price & marriage gifts
No incest with a sister
No homosexuality
No bestiality
Not to crossbreed animals
No castration
6.Food Laws
Not to eat a limb of a living creature
Not to eat or drink blood
Not to eat carrion
7.Justice
To establish courts and a system of justice
No false oaths

I might approach two commandment "to pray "and believe in "the singularity of G-d" as definitely a commandment to Avodah in oneness of has-m. Rabbi Harvey Falk among other contemporary Rabbies suggests that much work must be done to unwrap throughly the meaning of the seven Law of Bnei Noach.

Shema Yisrael
has-em alohenu
has-m echad

be happy lej leshalom.

[Rephoel]

Worshipping multiple helpers of GD is Not forbidden to goyim,ie.:trinity in Catholicism,for Jews 100% ossur

[aribentzion benveniste]

it is forbidden to all. A totally different matter would be the road that some religous groups take to get to the almighty. I feel the road taking by catholicism and any other group that worships multiple helpers of G-d as an active part of their avodah is in violation of the Law given in Mt Sinay to the greatest prophet Moshe Avinu. The only one given by Hasm as a Holy law.

Lej leshalom

[Samuel Kosofsky]

There is a machloket between Rishonim on whether shituf is considered avoda zara for non Jews or not. The Rambam has a position and the Meiri has another. It seems to me the Rambam says assur and the Meiri says mutar but I may not be recalling correctly.